FYI

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FYI

Originally shared by Lennart Aasenden

#delphi    #freepascal   #lazarus   #pascal   #pilotlogic   #copyrightinfringement
https://jonlennartaasenden.wordpress.com/2015/05/04/pilotlogic-and-codetyphon-in-clear-violation-of-copyright-law

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  1. David MillingtonMay 4, 2015 at 3:54 AM

    Very interesting.  I hadn't heard of ORCA, but that screenshot is pretty damning evidence.

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  2. Stefan GlienkeMay 4, 2015 at 4:06 AM

    The hatred strong is in this one - calm down you must ;)

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  3. Nicholas RingMay 4, 2015 at 4:13 AM

    I don't think it is hatred, just annoyance about what has happened.

    From his last comment in the Lazarus forum:
    "Actually I'm quite easy going. You should see me when I'm really p***ed off"

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  4. David MillingtonMay 4, 2015 at 4:14 AM

    I would be interested to see what else there is.  For all the assertions (and that screenshot which seems pretty clear) there's a lot of talk about other libraries etc for which there is no proof shown at all.  It would be nice to see more, in order to judge for oneself.

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  5. Nicholas RingMay 4, 2015 at 4:25 AM

    David Millington Yes it would be nice to see but I don't think that is what he wants. From what I can gather, he wants people to play within the rules and not make something out of someone else's work.

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  6. Stefan GlienkeMay 4, 2015 at 4:44 AM

    Imo it's an issue for the involved parties. If there is a violation of VGScene copyright, then report to Embt as they are the owner of the copyright and let them handle that. No need to play open source police if people don't react after having pointed out an issue.

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  7. Oliver HolmesMay 4, 2015 at 5:01 AM

    I only see some grey dots, sometimes with yellow behind them sometimes with white. More convincing evidence could be provided through an unscaled image of the diff, maybe?

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  8. David HeffernanMay 4, 2015 at 5:06 AM

    The personal abuse handed out is appalling.

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  9. Lars FosdalMay 4, 2015 at 5:11 AM

    Oliver Holmes - Clicking the image gives me enough resolution to read the variable and type names and see the systemic likeness of the code.

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  10. Edwin YipMay 4, 2015 at 5:56 AM

    tl for a non-English reader; dr; anybody care to summarize what's happening?

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  11. David HeffernanMay 4, 2015 at 7:50 AM

    Michael Thuma  The fact that you have the source code does not mean you can do anything you like with it.

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  12. Mason WheelerMay 4, 2015 at 8:57 AM

    Stefan Glienke  I think he's shown remarkable restraint for someone who's been harassed, threatened and doxxed.  If someone had done to me what they've done to him, I'd have gone to the FBI by now!

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  13. Stefan GlienkeMay 4, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    Mason Wheeler And tell them what? That someone posted private information he gathered by doing a google search or insulted you on the internet? Yeah, I guess the FBI will send their best agents to greece to capture that person. :)
    FWIW I don't know what exactly they did but that is what I got out of the blog post.

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  14. Nicholas RingMay 4, 2015 at 1:35 PM

    Edwin Yip Summary: Someone has used Free Pascal source to make a commercial product out of it - not used Free Pascal to make an application but claimed that Free Pascal is theirs and are selling it. Free Pascal's license doesn't allow this.

    The same persons also got the old commercial FireMonkey code (before it became FireMonkey), renamed the objects and released it as open source.

    People are shooting the messenger of the above issues and not dealing with the problems.

    I think that is it..

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  15. Andre Felix MiertschinkMay 4, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    IMO CodePython is a good product because it makes our life easier with the many bundled components, but of course they should never violate any third party copyright. Yes, I'm one owner of previous VGScene and ORCA is by far too similar. Embarcadero is the owner of VGScene and they should handle with Pilotlogic. If they can or will do something about it is another question. I believe this was bought to Embarcadero attention long time ago as this is nothing new about ORCA. I have VGScene and there is also no proper licensing document with it. In theory if you bought this product I guess you could do whatever you want with it ?!?!?! PilotLogic is also not selling CodePython, therefore I don't know if Embarcadero will be willing to spend money doing something about a product that is already very outdated compared to FireMonkey. 
    I'm not here to defend PilotLogic, I'm just a user that like CodePython and for me they could also remove ORCA as I don't use it anyway.

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  16. David HeffernanMay 5, 2015 at 4:56 AM

    Andre Felix Miertschink What is CodePython?

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  17. Andre Felix MiertschinkMay 5, 2015 at 6:13 AM

    ops... CodeTyphon :)

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  18. Mocte SandovalMay 5, 2015 at 5:27 PM

    And after all it looks like he gave up on Lazarus and FPC https://jonlennartaasenden.wordpress.com/2015/05/05/qtx-ide-for-freepascal/

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