Delphi 10 IDE crashing:
Delphi 10 IDE crashing:
Don't get me wrong I am not having a stab at Emb/Idera I just want to try and work out what is more likely to be causing the crashes. Only two things have changed:
1. I have recently moved from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10
2. My laptop has been replaced with one of identical specification ( 16Gb RAM, 512Gb SSD, Intel Core i7 ) except that it is now dual core ( 2 cores, 4 processors ) when my previous laptop was quad core ( 4 cores, 8 processors ).
When I work I quite often have 2 x copies of Delphi open and other tools such as SSMS and Atom ( text editor ) as well as Outlook.
The frequency of crashes is higher than is used to be I just want to know what people think it might be :
Windows or Cores or something else?
Thanks
Tony
Don't get me wrong I am not having a stab at Emb/Idera I just want to try and work out what is more likely to be causing the crashes. Only two things have changed:
1. I have recently moved from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10
2. My laptop has been replaced with one of identical specification ( 16Gb RAM, 512Gb SSD, Intel Core i7 ) except that it is now dual core ( 2 cores, 4 processors ) when my previous laptop was quad core ( 4 cores, 8 processors ).
When I work I quite often have 2 x copies of Delphi open and other tools such as SSMS and Atom ( text editor ) as well as Outlook.
The frequency of crashes is higher than is used to be I just want to know what people think it might be :
Windows or Cores or something else?
Thanks
Tony
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ReplyDeleteClean install of OS and tools, or move to new disk and upgrade?
ReplyDeleteWhat says the windows event viewer?
ReplyDelete"Crashing" doesn't convey much information. What is the error message?
ReplyDeleteI agree with the postings, there isn't enough information with the exception the machine was replaced and now you have Windows 10, is it the home edition or the professional ?
ReplyDeleteHow were the applications reinstalled ? Is this only Delphi and not Rad Studio ? Did you look at the Windows event viewer ? More information would be helpful.
Lars Fosdal How did you diagnose that the OS needs to be reinstalled? Are you sure that is sound advice?
ReplyDeleteDavid Heffernan - It seems I was unclear - I was wondering if his new installation was a HDD->SSD migration from the old, then an upgrade of Windows.
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ReplyDeleteWhat kind of crashes? Does it have access violations, does it freeze, does it throw asserts, is it when code editing / form designing / debugging...?
ReplyDeleteI have general stability issues as well that require a few restarts of the IDE per day. Delphi Pro, Win 10, QuadCore Tower. I don't think its the hardware/software config. This is not scientific but I perceive that running more than one instance of the IDE makes it worse as well as switch back and forth between Windows and OSX targets. It was more stable when I first upgraded but then again my project was much smaller as well.
ReplyDeleteI get "Catastrophic Error" message when dragging components to other parents in the structure view. Exception errors in the rtl230.bpl and exception errors in my code that don't make sense which means a restart required.
Speaking for myself I think its more related to the quality of my code. The IDE just seems to get less stable after I experienced several successive errors (exceptions usually) and if I don't take care of memory leaks as I progress in the development.
The stability of the designer seems to depend a lot on the components being moved.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand - I had a really weird crash the other day when closing a large number of units/frames/forms - which culminated in an eternal loop of AV dialogs - accessing 00000000 at address 00000000.
That said: 10 Seattle has been pretty stable in general for me.
David Heffernan The IDE locks up and the blue circle of death appears and Windows is frozen while Delphi shuts down
ReplyDeleteDavid Millington for about 50% of the occurrences it seems to be when I start to debug
ReplyDeleteAre you debugging a 64 bit process? Because the 64 bit debugger has never worked.
ReplyDeleteDavid H - Are you referring to D10 or all Ds from XE2+. I have found that to debug 64-bit apps you need to enable external debugging in the linker
ReplyDeleteTony Danby My experience with XE8/AM1.17 is that you shouldn't run two instances... more likely to crash then. Turn off codecompletion totally and save save save. ...
ReplyDeleteTony Danby I have same problem with MacBook PRO OSX 16gb and vmware Fusion ... windows 10 pro with 2 core and 8gb ram assigned...
ReplyDeleteI have also slow typing in IDE.
the IDE after some time I use it, when I write on the keyboard becomes slow to display the words.
I need to close and restart the ide.
I don't know if the problem is also VMware Fusion.
Antonello Carlomagno turn off code completion. ..
ReplyDeleteDavid Heffernan
ReplyDeleteAaah ! You might have something there ! I am developing 64 bit Windows applications and I do run in 64bit debug mode when debugging. Maybe I should do my debugging in 32bit mode, as I need to have both EXE's anyhow and I am not writing 64 bit specific code. Thanks David, I'll try that and see what happens
Go to OmniPascal ;-)
ReplyDelete+Jacek I couldn't find the debugger, where is it?
ReplyDelete+DavidHoyle no 64 bit Delphi debugger has ever been stable to my knowledge
ReplyDeleteTony Danby how was it? Same thing is happening to me in 32 bit mode
ReplyDeleteNotice to all those who use Delphi seattle with AVAST antivirus.
ReplyDeleteThe AVAST antivirus seems freezes the computer when compiling with Delphi a certain number of times.
I changed my antivirus AVIRA and I have more problem.
Bernard Thériault
ReplyDeleteI can add to that, we have a corporate version of Kaspersky and every time I did a build or debugged the whole system nearly locked up. Turns out we needed to exclude *.dcu files. Once we did that it was miles better, but I don't rate Kaspersky as it still takes up lots of resources