Hello

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Hello,
Now it is available the new version Delphi Berlin.

It can be installed on the same PC with Delphi Seattle?

Someone has already done this test?

regards
Antonello

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  1. Daniel JacksonApril 21, 2016 at 5:01 AM

    Yes, I have them side-by-side without incident.

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  2. Antonello CarlomagnoApril 21, 2016 at 5:02 AM

    thanks Daniel Jackson some advice to follow?

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  3. David MillingtonApril 21, 2016 at 5:03 AM

    All versions can usually be installed side by side. In the past, I've always made sure I install them in order - ie, XE, then XE2, then XE3, then... and so forth. So, if Seattle is fully updated, just install Berlin as normal.

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  4. Antonello CarlomagnoApril 21, 2016 at 5:05 AM

    I will not have problems to compile/build with the two versions?

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  5. Lars FosdalApril 21, 2016 at 5:11 AM

    You will not have problems as long as dcus, binaries, etc are output to different directories.

    The only potential issue is third party libraries.

    Since you will need to install them for Berlin, make sure that you don't accidentally upgrade your older installation if you need to stay on that for your older Delphi version

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  6. Antonello CarlomagnoApril 21, 2016 at 5:14 AM

    thanks Lars Fosdal but, about third party libraries I can install the different version, in different paths ... correct ?

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  7. Lars FosdalApril 21, 2016 at 5:15 AM

    Antonello Carlomagno It may depend on the library, but usually this is correct.

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  8. Daniel JacksonApril 21, 2016 at 5:16 AM

    All bets are off when it comes to third-party code.

    The public libraries etc. that I manage, provide different project files for different Delphi versions, each outputting to a version-specific path. This ensures there are no "conflicts" for any reason.

    Not all third-party developers do this, though.

    I will say this: I've been using multiple versions of Delphi side-by-side for many years, and it has never been a problem.

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  9. Ryan PottsApril 21, 2016 at 5:38 AM

    I had issues with XE5 messing up XE. XE5 updated environment variables that were originally pointing to XE. XE ended up hosed. Now in the habit of running Delphi in VMs.

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  10. David HeffernanApril 21, 2016 at 5:42 AM

    You can install Delphi versions in any order. Just make sure that all env variable modifications e.g. path are removed.

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  11. Daniel JacksonApril 21, 2016 at 6:05 AM

    ^ Definitely! The most annoying thing is the way Delphi installations massively inflate the PATH variable. It has a very low char limit, once exceeded Windows won't resolve anything on the PATH.

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  12. Agustin OrtuApril 21, 2016 at 6:17 AM

    Any side effects removing Delphi from PATH? ie why does the installer add this to PATH?

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  13. Daniel JacksonApril 21, 2016 at 6:24 AM

    ^ /sub

    I daren't remove it from the path. Instead, I define shorthand variables for each version, and replace the full length paths in the PATH variable with the shorthand to reduce its overall length.

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  14. Ryan PottsApril 21, 2016 at 6:32 AM

    The issue I run into is that both delphi's end up in the path. I needed to use dcc32 from the command line for XE and of course the XE5 version of dcc32 is what got called. I was probably trying to run a batch file that was bundled with 3rd party components. Daniel Jackson​ please shed some more light on how you keep multiple versions from walking over each other.

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  15. Daniel JacksonApril 21, 2016 at 6:37 AM

    Ryan Potts the IDE will automatically select the compilers associated with that version of the IDE. It's $(BDS) "attribute" (for want of a better term) always points to that version's specific physical path.

    If you were getting compiler version crossover, then it must've been something you were compiling from the command line, in which case you (or the batch file etc.) failed to specify the path to the compiler you wanted to use.

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  16. David HeffernanApril 21, 2016 at 9:28 AM

    Remove all mentions of Delphi from the path. Lots of FUD on this issue.

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  17. Lars FosdalApril 21, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    Yeah, I really wonder why they haven't removed it from the installer.

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  18. Daniel JacksonApril 21, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    So ABSOLUTELY NOTHING bad will happen if I remove all of the Delphi paths from the PATH var?

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  19. Job EspejelApril 21, 2016 at 9:13 PM

    /sub

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  20. David HeffernanApril 21, 2016 at 11:51 PM

    Nothing bad will happen. You won't have any command line tools available until you create a cmd process with appropriate bars defined. But you have to do that anyway when you have multiple versions installed.

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  21. Agustin OrtuApril 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM

    +1 David Heffernan  that's exactly what I do, I call the corresponding rsvars.bat and then build with msbuild. 

    I'll wipe out Delphi from PATH var then

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  22. Mr. E !April 22, 2016 at 1:42 PM

    David Heffernan After the upgrade to Seattle I don't use XE8 anymore and maybe once I compile from a cmd window just for fun.

    My path don't mention "Delphi",
    I wonder if my PATH var is good or I need to remove all/some?:

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\17.0\bin;
    C:\Users\Public\Documents\Embarcadero\Studio\17.0\Bpl;
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\17.0\bin64;
    C:\Users\Public\Documents\Embarcadero\Studio\17.0\Bpl\Win64;
    %EMBT_CM%;
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\16.0\bin;
    C:\Users\Public\Documents\Embarcadero\Studio\16.0\Bpl;
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\16.0\bin64;
    C:\Users\Public\Documents\Embarcadero\Studio\16.0\Bpl\Win64;

    The var %EMBT_CM% is C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\DB Change Manager 6.3.2

    Thank you

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  23. David HeffernanApril 22, 2016 at 3:08 PM

    I'd remove everything there

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  24. Mr. E !April 22, 2016 at 3:55 PM

    David Heffernan Understood, thank you.

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  25. Daniel JacksonApril 23, 2016 at 2:00 AM

    I've written a small tool to distribute to my colleagues to purge this menace from the PATH var.

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