Feature request: Add support for Windows on 64-bit ARM CPUs

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Feature request: Add support for Windows on 64-bit ARM CPUs

https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-17983
https://quality.embarcadero.com/browse/RSP-17983

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  1. Ronald KlitscheApril 27, 2017 at 1:23 AM

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  2. Stefan GlienkeApril 27, 2017 at 3:24 AM

    Let's see how that turns out this time and then decide if it's worth the effort. Until then I think the builtin x86 emulator will work just fine - otherwise that Windows version would be useless (just like their last try) if almost no application runs on it.

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  3. Johan BontesApril 27, 2017 at 5:10 AM

    Knowing how easily Microsoft abandons its efforts it would be foolish to rush to support WinOnARM. Emba has quite enough to work on as is.

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  4. Stefan GlienkeApril 27, 2017 at 9:57 AM

    Fl Ko That's the key thing about it. Every existing Windows application theoretically runs on it.

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  5. Lars FosdalApril 27, 2017 at 2:05 PM

    32-bit Windows x86 on ARM is an emulation. The emulator cannot run x64. I want support for native 64-bit ARM, just like 64-bit Windows for ARM will run. No emulation = better performance / lower energy consumption.

    arstechnica.com - x86 emulation rumored to be coming to Windows for ARM in late 2017

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  6. Ronald KlitscheApril 27, 2017 at 10:35 PM

    Lars Fosdal if you look to the Linux x64 compiler I'm not sure that "no emulation = better performance" is valid for Delphi.

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  7. Daniel RailApril 28, 2017 at 5:13 AM

    Lars Fosdal It could be a possibility that the VCL(ComCtl32) might not be supported natively on Windows on ARM, other than the x86 emulation. We should know more information at Build 2017 (May 10-12). And, it might be UWP only for native Windows on ARM. And, I still believe that with FireMonkey, it should be possible to develop an UWP application, if Embarcadero would be willing to make the changes in API calls to support pure 100% UWP (and I'm not talking about the Desktop Bridge). And, by supporting pure 100% UWP applications, this would also open up for deployment to the Xbox One, HoloLens and the Windows 10 IOT on ARM.

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  8. Lars FosdalApril 28, 2017 at 5:34 AM

    Daniel Rail That is a very well made point. I fear you are right with regards to 64-bit on ARM.

    The real feature request will probably have to be to be able to make Windows Runtime based UWP .appx apps with Delphi.

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  9. Lars FosdalApril 29, 2017 at 2:09 AM

    Fl Ko These articles seem indicate that the full Win32 APIs actually are natively available on Windows on ARM64 - and not just the Windows Runtime APIs? I wish there would be some definitive info on this soon.

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