We have moved to https://en.delphipraxis.net !
We have moved to https://en.delphipraxis.net !
Starting January 1st, 2019 - the G+ Delphi Developers Community will be closed for new posts and new members.
Dec 11: Note that Google has moved the G+ closing date to somewhere in late March.
For details on how to register at Delphi PRAXiS, please see below.
If you are a new user:
https://en.delphipraxis.net/register
To make sure that you understand what your sign up for,
these are the service terms:
https://en.delphipraxis.net/terms/
and these are the rules of the house:
https://en.delphipraxis.net/guidelines/
If you already are a German speaking Delphi-PRAXiS user, you can use your existing account, but you have to reset your password. Please visit the following page and follow the instructions:
https://www.delphipraxis.net/pages/clone_account.html
If you insist on not joining DP, there are alternatives:
The new official Embarcadero forums:
https://community.idera.com/developer-tools/
The Delphi Developer Group at Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/137012246341854
Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/delphi
MeWe Delphi Developers:
https://mewe.com/join/delphidevelopers
Others, please suggest in the comments.
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Previous pinned post:
https://plus.google.com/+LarsFosdal/posts/ZfV3wu4AyRh
I wonder if Delphi Praxis could use accounts fro mother servers, like most other comment services do. OAuth, OpenID and so on.
ReplyDeleteArioch The They could, but according to Daniel, they have stayed away from it, since these logins are tracked by those services. He said he would be willing to consider it, if there was a massive number of requests for it - so far, not the case.
ReplyDeleteLars Fosdal self-fulfilling prophecy
ReplyDeleteif person does not want a hassle to make 1001st password to get into a forum then that person would not want a hassle of making the 1001st password just to write down that request.
P.S. of course they are tracked, but is this inconveniencing him (server side) or users (client sie) ? the latter do have an opt-out.
To opt out, you need to associate yourself with that service. It seems a lot of people are opposed to that these days.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I don't mind being tracked by Google, so a "login with Google" would have worked for me - but since I use a password keeping service, having a unique, secure login with that 1001st password, works fine for me as well.
To opt out you just have to make that 1001st password the old way. Those opposed still can do.
ReplyDeleteThey may also keep distinct usernames and passwords for every forum they use.
"password keeping service" - service or local app?
No Oauth - not my decision.
ReplyDeletepwds - both. Server storage and local encrypt/decrypt.
For the Delphi Developer group on Facebook, here's the URL: https://www.facebook.com/groups/137012246341854
ReplyDeletefacebook.com - Delphi developer Public Group | Facebook
Daniel Rail Thank you, Daniel.
ReplyDeleteThank you Lars Fosdal
ReplyDeleteJoining to FB and MeWe.
Hi Lars Fosdal, do you plan to keep the MeWe group alive?
ReplyDeleteFred Ahrens Well, it is there for people to use if they want. I will be reading and cleaning out crap - but - I will spend most of my time on DP.
ReplyDeleteLars Fosdal - YOU have moved. The rest of us are considering a move to many places, including your new place. While I am thankful for your time and effort here, I think it is a total disservice to the community to close way early while this gets sorts out. I question that you posted a link to only your community, and not any of the given others at least some billing. Sorry to say, the new group does not look very appealing, and now, I feel strong armed to join. You have done very well at closing the other forums you have run, and now I question you sunset of this forum as "just another google like move". Speaking of moving, I offered up a demo of a good job a complete scrape of a google group and moving it,. that went no where. Yes, I will join, but truthful, I look at the new forums and think "damn, that is a backwards move. we should move back to a terminal based CompuServe. You are the owner, judge, and executioner, so pull the damn plug like the other ones (and change the "from begin to end;" tag line to have period. Somewhere on this planet, I hope to find a forums where the users needs come first (and that is not closing early, but keeping the light on to the last possible moment). Thank you for the time you served here, but stopping new posts and new users early is a disservice to all.
ReplyDeleteJoe C. Hecht - Ref. the scraping - DP can actually host the community data in a searchable form - including the graphics, and would be very interested in your assistance with scraping and feeding the posts to DP. The best way would probably be to use an intermediate storage format so that the import can be done repeatedly if so is needed?
ReplyDeleteEdit: Some time ago, I posted a Community Takeout that identifies all 12600+ posts in JSON format.
That can probably help in ensuring a complete export - and help with replacing references to other posts within a post.
Joe C. Hecht - Ref the closure:
ReplyDeleteYes, it is a strong arm closing that is announced well in advance. I am indeed trying to make people to go to DP. Most of the "heavy hitters" are there already.
The final deadline is there dictating a move no matter what. The list of options of where to move to is limited - and probably not going to change, but there are options out there for those that do not want to use DP.
So why close early?
I do it for two reasons:
1. I no longer need spend time on maintaining the G+ community and can focus on DP and maintain MeWe.
2. It gives us plenty time to migrate the old content.
Lars Fosdal i can't login or register at en.delphipraxis.net because i already have an account for www.delphipraxis.net. Seems that the accounts are not shared but i can't create a new account with my e-mail on en. because my e-mail is already used (by german version of delphipraxis.net). Whats next?
ReplyDeleteYusuf Zorlu As it says in this post:
ReplyDeleteIf you already are a German speaking Delphi-PRAXiS user, you can use your existing account, but you have to reset your password. Please visit the following page and follow the instructions:
https://www.delphipraxis.net/pages/clone_account.html
Might care to add an entry:
ReplyDeletehttps://social.antefriguserat.de/index.php/G%2B_Notable_Communities_Database
social.antefriguserat.de - G+ Notable Communities Database - PlexodusWiki
Edward Morbius That Wiki has a really bad editor :(
ReplyDeleteLars Fosdal Mediawiki, same as Wikipedia.
ReplyDelete(I generally launch "edit with gvim" myself.)
Edward Morbius I'm used to Confluence.
ReplyDeleteHow about: community.idera.com - IDERA Community
ReplyDeleteDarian Miller That was the first alternative I suggested in this very post.
ReplyDeleteI would prefer to have OAuth too, to login with Google/Facebook. Too much effort to create another account.
ReplyDeleteWhat is now the conclusion? I scanned the alternatives but I am really not convinced by any.
ReplyDeletecommunity.idera.com - Programming Languages
would by a logical step but has nearly no traffic. As well a really living large forum is important for the SEO (search engine optimization) and should run under the domain of Embarcadero (and not Idera).
Looks as "no plan".
Günther Schoch - The conclusion still is that this community is closing and the options of where to post instead, is at the top of this post. G+ is inevitably disappearing.
ReplyDeleteLars Fosdal I have seen and tried as well to discuss with EMBT.
ReplyDeleteIMO https://en.delphipraxis.net is the only useful place with enough traffic. But I am always surprise how EMBT can forget about such important marketing instruments as powerful user forums.
Personally i liked NPJ - multi-blog engine build on top of WackoWiki - but it is dead sadly.
ReplyDeleteOne can try XWiki, it more or less supports Creole and they were giving free hosting for tests.
Joe C. Hecht terminals, CompuServe... Backward? Maybe. I was not there in BBS era.
ReplyDeleteBut personally i still think distributed standardized thick-client NNTP forums of 1990-s were superior to flashy bangy unreliable WWW forums of today.
At least i always had warranty that half-written not yet posted text would not just disappear if internet or server or browser or god knows what had a short hiccup.
NNTP all the way! I'm still willing to add a Delphi group on my personal NNTP server in there is interest.
ReplyDeleteLars Fosdal > I'm used to Confluence.
ReplyDeleteNow that's a terrible wiki if I've ever seen one. I hated it with a passion, and would take MediaWiki over it any day.
Graeme Geldenhuys Yeah, it is amazing what you get used to at times.
ReplyDeleteIt is very fragile as well, and dead links to images and etc is not rare, especially if you migrate from one repository to another.
Does Delphipraxis happen to have a Tapatalk interface? I'm kinda fond of that.
ReplyDeleteArthur Hoornweg not currently, I think. Will it cost the site something to have one?
ReplyDeleteI believe it's free, but it shows some ads.
ReplyDeleteArthur Hoornweg in the client, I assume.
ReplyDeleteOf course...
ReplyDeleteI googled Tapatalk in the Invision forums, and the results were not uplifting.
ReplyDeleteI register on it but get "You did not pass the security check. Please try again." I do not know how to pass through register.
ReplyDeleteJack Lee Read the instructions carefully. There are spambot prevention questions there that must be answered correctly.
ReplyDeleteLars Fosdal Sorry I can not see any other information there.
ReplyDeletehttps://plus.google.com/photos/...
Jack Lee It looks like your browser doesn't handle the bot busting code.
ReplyDeleteTry from a desktop?
browser is google Chrome. maybe there are some JS code is band by GFW ?
ReplyDeleteLars Fosdal I'm in China main land, there is GFW and maybe it bans some code from your website. I have success to register by using a HK IP
ReplyDeleteI wonder of their forum is tapatalk-enabled to use it on phones
ReplyDeleteArioch The I don't think so. The tapatalk extension takes a LOT of flak in the Invision boards.
ReplyDelete